Ver la versión completa : Pokémon Black & White
Lunatico
20/10/2010, 21:43
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Sé que hay un thread sobre los eventos, pero no quería dejar pasar la chance de tener el thread para hablar en general de los nuevos juegos para Nintendo DS.
Qué les parecieron? Geniales o desastrosos? Qué le criticarían al juego?
Por mi parte, el aspecto gráfico se vé PERFECTO, bastante pulido y bien logrado.
Los Pokémon nuevos, a pesar de que algunos dicen que ya no son Pokémon, para mi la gran mayoría son muy buenos, tanto metagamisticamente como esteticamente.
En fin, más logros que fracasos, por mi parte tengo que criticarle al juego le exclusión de un Vs Seeker para poder volver a pelear con otros entrenadores, ya que se dificulta entrenar.
Tampoco están los rematches a los lideres, y eso molesta un poco también.
Las batallas triples y rotativas a pesar de que estan bien conformadas, hay MUY pocas en el juego, pocas y casi nada, 3 o 4 con suerte.
Y a ustedes? Qué les pareció?
Que esperabas? Apenas ganas la liga con tus pokemon máximo al nivel
58 te empiezan a tirar entrenadores con pokemon a nivel 70.
Una de las cosas que no me gustaron por lo menos de negro era que en ciudad negra NO HAY NADA solo una tienda de codas caras que al final ni se usan.
Seguramente dejaran el tema de los Re-matchs con líderes y le agregaran el VS Seeker a la tercer versión.
Lunatico
20/10/2010, 22:17
Seguramente dejaran el tema de los Re-matchs con líderes y le agregaran el VS Seeker a la tercer versión.
Si, eso estaba pensando, pero me desepcionó un poco.
El tema de entrenadores a nivel 70, es un cambio drástico, nadie se lo esperaba, no es que no me gustó pero fué un sabor amargo para mí.
Reshiram
21/10/2010, 12:36
Josephvb10 tu repuesta a sido incorrecta los objetos de ciudad negra son muy importantes como piedras agua... caramelo raros y mas
Lunatico
21/10/2010, 14:05
Josephvb10 tu repuesta a sido incorrecta los objetos de ciudad negra son muy importantes como piedras agua... caramelo raros y mas
El problema es que esos objetos no los venden todos los días.
En Black City hay muchos entrenadores que pueden servir, pero aún asi prefiero White Forest.
A mí el juego en cuanto a gráficos me encantó, sobre todo la parte cuando vences la liga por primera vez, cuando combates con N, es lo mejor que he visto en un juego de Pokémon para una consola portátil D:! Me recordó a Rayquaza en el Esmeralda u__ú [Espero Remakes ? (?)]
En cuanto a la historia, para ser sincero me pareció la peor de todas, fue muy corta, y ya MUY repetida, osea siempre lo mismo es algo que cansa ú___ù.
El metro batalla, me dejó sin palabras, ni opinaré de eso.
Las ciudades exclusivas no pude encontrarlas una mejor idea, osea, que después de conectar los juegos las cosas sean al revés, fue lo más original que hubo en el juego en cuanto a historia xD.
Los combates triples son muy confusos, se me tornaron muy difíciles xD, pero están bien D:!
Bueno, esa es mi opinión con respecto al juego n__n
Bye
Lunatico
21/10/2010, 19:48
Pienso que opinar de la historia es algo apurado, es decir, ni en inglés revelaron el plot del juego.
Es verdad, pero es básicamente lo mismo de siempre xDD! Derrotar al equipo malvado de la misma manera!
Renelzio
21/10/2010, 23:08
Como a todos, el juego gráficamente es más que perfecto.
Los Pokémon, me gustaron la mayoría en especial Wargle aunque me recuerde a Digimon XD, pero algo terrible es que Mamanbo no fue evolución de luvdisc y buffalon no fue evo de tauros, eran evoluciones perfectas de estos dos... aunque muchos criticaran el exceso de evos y pres introducidas en la cuarta generación...
Lo del vs Seeker ni enterado, y me la pasé buscando por internet la manera de conseguirle XD, y sí, se extraña al vs seeker.
Las batallas triples son algo... **** odio que movimientos como surf y terremoto afecten a todos, pero igual son un buen cambio.
La historia, bueno, no se puede criticar mucho puesto que en las versiones traducidas hechas por fans, no han llegado a traducir en su totalidad el juego. Pero, según lo que entendí, me gustó la historia, difiero contigo Fer, cambió bastante, no son el típico equipo, no tienen "Ejecutivos" y "Administradores" como en los anteriores, son unos viejitos que casi nunca luchas con ellos XD creo sólo 2 batallas contra ellos.
Y esta vez el plan se reducía a los caprichos de "N" (creo...), aunque sí odié que al final se volviera "bueno". Además, la intrusión de N en la liga fue algo inesperado y genial XD
Lo del brusco cambio de niveles me sorprendió, siempre los combates después de la liga son de de menor nivel que los del alto mando, y ahora los suben a 62-70 xd Recuerdo que me dirigí a la construcción esa de "sueños" a ver qué pokémon me encontraba, y al pelear con el primer entrenador me sorprendo con un pokémon nivel 63, al instante pensé ¿Tengo que ir primero a otro lado, o qué? afortunadamente las batallas a pesar del exagerado nivel no son tan difíciles, la mayoría de esas rutas tiene pokémons en preevo.
La ciudad negra y el bosque blanco los odié, al menos el bosque blanco no me gustó, no quiero más pokémon >;( quiero pokémons más fuertes XD.
Ah, y otra cosa que no me gustó, la reducción de rutas marítimas, sólo hay 1 o 2 (y muy pequeñas) y los ríos entre rutas terrestres...
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Lunatico
22/10/2010, 00:23
Agradezco a Dios que no haya muchas rutas maritimas, odio perderme la verdad xD
Con respecto a lo que dijiste:
Yo desde siempre pensé que esta generación iba a ser completamente nueva, desde cero, sin ningún bicho evolucionado de uno viejo, es más, cada día que pasaba veia a Mamanbou menos parecido a Luvdisc, aunque podría tragarme mis palabras por que por ejemplo Futachimaru no se parece a Daikenki.
Una cosa que AMO del team Plasma es su música cuando peleas contra ellos, es simplemente épica, nunca ninguna canción contra un team / admin de ningún juego me ha desepcionado.
La inclusión de que el juego termine con el castillo del rey de Isshu en la liga, me pareció un giro completamente inesperado, y a mi parecer, les quedó bastante bien, por que, como todos sabemos, en todos los juegos de Pokémon, el plot el team de turno se terminaba justo antes de ir por el último gimnasio, y esta vez me agradó mucho el cambio.
Aun no he jugado este juego y lo espero con ansias pero me e estado haciendo una idea del juego gracias a todos sus comentarios jeje cuando lo juegue daré mi propia opinión(obviamente)
Saludos
Yo tambien no lo jugue aun.... creo que voy a esperar a que salga al español... y luego veremos... XD
Pero esta claro que es espectacular !!!
That's all...
bueno ami el juego me encanto aunque pa vencer al alto mando me costo muxo mis pokemon tuvieron k estar casi todos en nivel 75 aora les pido una ayudita komo ago para pasar pokemon de blanco y negro a pokemon diamante pork x lo k m di cuenta en el centro pokemon si subes las escaleras ablas kon la xica del aizkierday y t ace pasar y todo pero cuando disk bajo o me meto enuna especie de ascensor se pone todo en negro y tengo k apagarl a ds y no podo pasarmis pokemon kiero ayuda xfa mi msn es <!-- e --><a href="mailto:v3j4ever@msn.com">v3j4ever@msn.com</a><!-- e --> kiero pasar los nuevos pokemon a mi pokemon diamante y all ientrenarles ayuda x favor cotextar pero el juego genial aunk m faltan 5 pokemon pa obtener la pokedex nacional
Renelzio
23/10/2010, 15:06
bueno ami el juego me encanto aunque pa vencer al alto mando me costo muxo mis pokemon tuvieron k estar casi todos en nivel 75 aora les pido una ayudita komo ago para pasar pokemon de blanco y negro a pokemon diamante pork x lo k m di cuenta en el centro pokemon si subes las escaleras ablas kon la xica del aizkierday y t ace pasar y todo pero cuando disk bajo o me meto enuna especie de ascensor se pone todo en negro y tengo k apagarl a ds y no podo pasarmis pokemon kiero ayuda xfa mi msn es <!-- e --><a href="mailto:v3j4ever@msn.com">v3j4ever@msn.com</a><!-- e --> kiero pasar los nuevos pokemon a mi pokemon diamante y all ientrenarles ayuda x favor cotextar pero el juego genial aunk m faltan 5 pokemon pa obtener la pokedex nacional
De Pokémon Black & White... ¿A Diamante? Disculpa, pero me temo que es imposible, en esos juegos todavía no existía la región Isshu y sus 156 pokémon, por lo tanto, no es posible pasar pokémons de esa región.
Lunatico
23/10/2010, 15:48
Creo que se confundió y quiso poner de Diamond a BW xD
Tengo muchas espectativas puestas en estos juegos, que espero que se cumplan cuando los juegue en español... me interesa eso de que UNICAMENTE salgan pokes nuevos... pero admito que me decepciono mucho que no hubieran nuevos pokes que sean evoluciones o preevoluciones de algunos viejos
me parece a la vez genial y desastroso por la misma parte del juego, es decir: la mitad bien, la otra mitad mal, por mi parte pienso que los pokémon a la hora de su forma, características, etc... no han sido lo suficientemente trabajados a excepción de un par de ellos, por parte de los gráficos como era de esperar han sido los mejores hasta el momento pero de eso no hay ninguna queja ni opinión negativa, solo positiva, mediante la historia debo informar de que no me atrajo demasiado, no digo que sea mala porque es buena la historia pero por mi parte no trae tanta intriga como las versiones anteriores pero aún así debo decir que causa un gran impacto para el espectador.
La verdad esque en el argumento si hay un cambio enorme, ya no son los tipicos malvados que quieren apoderarse del mundo,
incluso sus ideas te pueden dejar pensando sobre como es el mundo pokemon.
En cuanto alas rutas maritimas, si me gusto la idea de que las disminuyeran , nose porque ... digo siempre eran tentacruel's al igual que en las cavernas cada paso que dabas era un zubat o geodude, algo mas cansado... viniendo al tema, me encanto que en las cuevas cambiaran la tematica de ya no usar los tipicos de kanto.
En cuanto a graficos si es un gran paso, me imagino que la 3era version que espero que sea para 3ds sea un enorme avanze ( por la capacidad de esta consola).
Revancha con lideres de gimnasio? es un gran atractivo, tambien opino que lo estan reservando.
Cosa que no me gusto fue lo de poner pokemon solamente nuevos sin ningun parentesco con otras generacion, osea, paresiese que "hicimos evoluciones y pre's pero al final nos arepentimos y lo dejamos asi"
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